Comments on: Chinese Project Notes 3: Environment-Building + The Laddering Method Reloaded http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded How to learn Japanese. On your own, having fun and to fluency. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:10:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-4667 khatzumoto Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:13:53 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-4667 You'll need a new, region-free DVD player. Or a program like "DVD Region+CSS Free" to make your laptop region-free... You’ll need a new, region-free DVD player. Or a program like “DVD Region+CSS Free” to make your laptop region-free…

]]> By: Yun http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-4632 Yun Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:15:53 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-4632 i was thinking of using amazon.cn to order some movies since they have simplified characters. this might be a dumb question, but do you think I will need a specific player that can play Chinese DVDs, or will my american DVD player or laptop DVD player suffice? i was thinking of using amazon.cn to order some movies since they have simplified characters. this might be a dumb question, but do you think I will need a specific player that can play Chinese DVDs, or will my american DVD player or laptop DVD player suffice?

]]> By: GZ http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2841 GZ Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:12:42 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2841 Thanks for the heads-up. Thanks for the heads-up.

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2786 khatzumoto Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:24:47 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2786 Negative. All fanti. Negative. All fanti.

]]> By: GZ http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2758 GZ Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:26:33 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2758 Hey Khatzumoto, I'm curious to know if these videos tend to include the option to view simplified character subtitles (my chosen script of study). Unfortunately for me, the mainland isn't quite the cultural exporter that Taiwan and HK are... Hey Khatzumoto,

I’m curious to know if these videos tend to include the option to view simplified character subtitles (my chosen script of study). Unfortunately for me, the mainland isn’t quite the cultural exporter that Taiwan and HK are…

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2237 khatzumoto Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:32:25 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2237 Thanks! I downloaded the software once but it didn't work on my compy...I'll try one more time... Thanks! I downloaded the software once but it didn’t work on my compy…I’ll try one more time…

]]> By: David http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2236 David Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:11:17 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2236 Hi Khatzumoto, While learning Chinese, did you already come aross this one software called PPLive? It's basically a P2P Internet Television Network, featuring lots of Chinese channels, including one showing Disney films at 24/7! More about this here: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPlive http://www.pplive.com/zh-tw/index.html Hi Khatzumoto,

While learning Chinese, did you already come aross this one software called PPLive? It’s basically a P2P Internet Television Network, featuring lots of Chinese channels, including one showing Disney films at 24/7!

More about this here:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPlive
http://www.pplive.com/zh-tw/index.html

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2179 khatzumoto Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:37:48 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2179 By the way, keep in mind that I watch these movies repeatedly. And then I rip the audio from the DVD, put it onto my mp3 player and listen to the movies like a radio play (but where I can picture every scene). Each time I re-watch, my understanding grows, I pick up something new. By the way, keep in mind that I watch these movies repeatedly. And then I rip the audio from the DVD, put it onto my mp3 player and listen to the movies like a radio play (but where I can picture every scene). Each time I re-watch, my understanding grows, I pick up something new.

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2178 khatzumoto Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:26:27 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2178 >How much of those videos would you understand without subtitles? This is kind of a tough question to answer, but I'll just give estimates. By the way, I'm assuming you mean Chinese subs, since I don't use any foreign subs whatsoever. Since I've seen almost all those videos in either English or Japanese like a million times over (I have sizeable tracts of dialogue of the Japanese <em>Toy Story</em> (TS) unintentionally memorized; <em>Powerpuff Girls </em>(PPG) is also a victim of my repeat viewings on Cartoon Network), my understanding is essentially 100%. But of course, if I actually had to depend only on my present Chinese, I would not be able to follow the plot--10%-25% at best and probably less...much less. Since I know what's happening in those videos, I can just focus on sentence-mining--I don't have to figure out anything; I don't get confused about what's happening: I know WHAT people are saying, all I need to find out is HOW. By the way, WITH subs my understanding jumps to like 25-40%. Since I know a lot of Chinese characters, subs really raise my game if they're turned on. Anyway, these numbers are suuuuuuper fuzzy. Sometimes I understand a whole line of dialogue, sometimes I'm totally lost, sometimes I infer stuff later on (I do a lot of inferring)...it really varies. Suffice it to say that I'm still a Chinese language baby, which is precisely why I'm busting my butt so hard. >Are you able to have a conversation in Chinese? A basic "conversation" about my family structure and the price of fruit in Japan, yes. A job interview? Politics? Even computer science? Not yet. Also, if the person speaks a slurring northen dialect, my ear is still not well trained for that yet. Speaking of conversations, the other day, I telephoned a Taiwanese newspaper about getting a subscription from Japan...With electronic dictionary firmly in hand, I was able to fake my way through it, but I had the operator repeat herself quite a few times. Also, I found that I had this "lag" as I attempted to process what she way saying, it took me what seemed like several seconds to be like "oh she's saying X-Y-Z". As it is, I avoid random speaking and writing and focus on input; I do parrot funny dialogue that I hear in movies and what-not...especially PPG and TS: "別作夢!!!". Speaking of faking your way through it--a lot of times, just <strong>pretending</strong>/thinking you understand something actually helps you understand it. >How much of those videos would you understand without subtitles?
This is kind of a tough question to answer, but I’ll just give estimates. By the way, I’m assuming you mean Chinese subs, since I don’t use any foreign subs whatsoever. Since I’ve seen almost all those videos in either English or Japanese like a million times over (I have sizeable tracts of dialogue of the Japanese Toy Story (TS) unintentionally memorized; Powerpuff Girls (PPG) is also a victim of my repeat viewings on Cartoon Network), my understanding is essentially 100%. But of course, if I actually had to depend only on my present Chinese, I would not be able to follow the plot–10%-25% at best and probably less…much less. Since I know what’s happening in those videos, I can just focus on sentence-mining–I don’t have to figure out anything; I don’t get confused about what’s happening: I know WHAT people are saying, all I need to find out is HOW.

By the way, WITH subs my understanding jumps to like 25-40%. Since I know a lot of Chinese characters, subs really raise my game if they’re turned on.

Anyway, these numbers are suuuuuuper fuzzy. Sometimes I understand a whole line of dialogue, sometimes I’m totally lost, sometimes I infer stuff later on (I do a lot of inferring)…it really varies. Suffice it to say that I’m still a Chinese language baby, which is precisely why I’m busting my butt so hard.
>Are you able to have a conversation in Chinese?
A basic “conversation” about my family structure and the price of fruit in Japan, yes. A job interview? Politics? Even computer science? Not yet. Also, if the person speaks a slurring northen dialect, my ear is still not well trained for that yet.

Speaking of conversations, the other day, I telephoned a Taiwanese newspaper about getting a subscription from Japan…With electronic dictionary firmly in hand, I was able to fake my way through it, but I had the operator repeat herself quite a few times. Also, I found that I had this “lag” as I attempted to process what she way saying, it took me what seemed like several seconds to be like “oh she’s saying X-Y-Z”. As it is, I avoid random speaking and writing and focus on input; I do parrot funny dialogue that I hear in movies and what-not…especially PPG and TS: “別作夢!!!”.

Speaking of faking your way through it–a lot of times, just pretending/thinking you understand something actually helps you understand it.

]]> By: Alec http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2173 Alec Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:44:35 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-3-environment-building-the-laddering-method-reloaded#comment-2173 Wow, interesting to see your collection. Could you just remind us what your level of Mandarin is at the moment. How much of those videos would you understand without subtitles? Are you able to have a conversation in Chinese? Thanks. Wow, interesting to see your collection.

Could you just remind us what your level of Mandarin is at the moment. How much of those videos would you understand without subtitles? Are you able to have a conversation in Chinese? Thanks.

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