Comments on: Chinese Project Notes 5: Monodics http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics How To Learn Japanese (Or Any Other Language). On Your Own. Having Fun. To Fluency. Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:01:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: 40 pancakes http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-19421 40 pancakes Fri, 01 May 2009 14:18:27 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-19421 What would be your suggestion for absolute beginner sentence mining materials for Chinese? Like a Tae Kim equivalent, or the best online (free) Chinese-English dictionary? This is only out of curiosity, I really should be focusing on Japanese but... Anyway, thanks in advance! What would be your suggestion for absolute beginner sentence mining materials for Chinese? Like a Tae Kim equivalent, or the best online (free) Chinese-English dictionary? This is only out of curiosity, I really should be focusing on Japanese but… Anyway, thanks in advance!

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-13707 Rebecca Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:41:35 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-13707 Do you still remember me? i am rebecca. Since from this year May konwn your web to now, i alwalys login on your web of course it is the most useful i have ever found in the internet and also introduce to all my friends thouse who are now studing japanese this moment. From your web i got many other useful informations such as subtitles web site as www.jdrama.cc.But from this Thurday i cannot no longer permit to login in that site.Do you know the reason that may many helpful to me. Wait for your kindly response.Tks. Do you still remember me? i am rebecca.
Since from this year May konwn your web to now, i alwalys login on your web of course it is the most useful i have ever found in the internet and also introduce to all my friends thouse who are now studing japanese this moment.
From your web i got many other useful informations such as subtitles web site as http://www.jdrama.cc.But from this Thurday i cannot no longer permit to login in that site.Do you know the reason that may many helpful to me.
Wait for your kindly response.Tks.

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-7847 khatzumoto Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:43:06 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-7847 I use a piece of software called ChineseWriter 9, made for Japanese consumers. It's got a CHN-JPN-CHN dic on it. I use a piece of software called ChineseWriter 9, made for Japanese consumers. It’s got a CHN-JPN-CHN dic on it.

]]> By: All My Nihongos http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-7741 All My Nihongos Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:57:48 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-7741 Hey Khatzumoto, your site is inspirational. I myself have a good base of Japanese and have already started studying Mandarin. So I'm kinda like you. When it comes to learning Japanese, one can use http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/ as it will give a word translation and an example sentence. http://zidian.cn.yahoo.com/ is good when you want to go ENG-CHN and have an example sentence in Mandarin. But what about JPN-CHN? Is there any site that if you type in a Japanese word it'll give you the Mandarin equivalent with an example sentence in Mandarin? Does Yahoo have it? Thanks. Hey Khatzumoto, your site is inspirational. I myself have a good base of Japanese and have already started studying Mandarin. So I’m kinda like you. When it comes to learning Japanese, one can use http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/ as it will give a word translation and an example sentence. http://zidian.cn.yahoo.com/ is good when you want to go ENG-CHN and have an example sentence in Mandarin. But what about JPN-CHN? Is there any site that if you type in a Japanese word it’ll give you the Mandarin equivalent with an example sentence in Mandarin? Does Yahoo have it? Thanks.

]]> By: yun http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-5359 yun Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:10:29 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-5359 those first two dictionary links don't seem to be working for me. anyone else having this problem? those first two dictionary links don’t seem to be working for me. anyone else having this problem?

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-3321 khatzumoto Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:26:19 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-3321 >am I screwing myself to do repetitions with them before finishing the Kanji? In principle, the fact that you're doing Japanese at all is what ultimately matters. In practice, I would say that you should go learn those kanji first. There's no way around them, only a way through them. You're probably excited to learn "real" Japanese, but to the extent that you're simply going to hit a wall at some point--a wall that can only be erased by kanji knowledge--you might as well take care of it now. From my personal experience, life is much easier when you know a few thousand kanji... >am I ******** myself to do repetitions with them before finishing the Kanji?
In principle, the fact that you’re doing Japanese at all is what ultimately matters. In practice, I would say that you should go learn those kanji first. There’s no way around them, only a way through them. You’re probably excited to learn “real” Japanese, but to the extent that you’re simply going to hit a wall at some point–a wall that can only be erased by kanji knowledge–you might as well take care of it now. From my personal experience, life is much easier when you know a few thousand kanji…

]]> By: Kat in Japan http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-3320 Kat in Japan Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:17:50 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-3320 Wow. I feel like the last comment answered alot of my questions, although Im not trying to cram in two languages at the same time. Anyway, I started learning Kanji the old way-through childrens 1,2,3 year readers. Due to your site I began relearning the Kanji with the Heisig book. At this point though, I can read kana and a couple of hundred Kanji and was pulling sentences from the textbook I WAS reading, but have since changed to 'mining' per orders of the great Khatsumoto. Since the Kanji in this book are the ones I learned first, am I screwing myself to do repetitions with them before finishing the Kanji? Wow. I feel like the last comment answered alot of my questions, although Im not trying to cram in two languages at the same time. Anyway, I started learning Kanji the old way-through childrens 1,2,3 year readers. Due to your site I began relearning the Kanji with the Heisig book. At this point though, I can read kana and a couple of hundred Kanji and was pulling sentences from the textbook I WAS reading, but have since changed to ‘mining’ per orders of the great Khatsumoto. Since the Kanji in this book are the ones I learned first, am I ******** myself to do repetitions with them before finishing the Kanji?

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2634 khatzumoto Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:55:45 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2634 >do you recommend learning x-thousand chinese characters before doing the 10k sentences, just like for japanese? Yes. Absolutely. >do you also recommend doing 1 character per flash card Yes. A compound is meaningless until you know its parts. >do you see any drawbacks to doing sentences (phase 4) at the same time as doing the characters only? Yes. It's like learning sentences in English without knowing the alphabet. You'll only be slowed down and frustrated. Learn hanzi first. Divide and conquer. >i was wondering what your thoughts on learning both japanese and chinese simultaneously 二兎を追う者は一兎をも得ず：The hunter who chases two rabbits catches neither. She needs to use one to bait the other (sort of...). Sucking at two languages simultaneously = no good, IMHO. Get good at one first. One at a time. Then maybe you can use it to ladder onto the other. >do you recommend learning x-thousand chinese characters before doing the 10k sentences, just like for japanese?
Yes. Absolutely.

>do you also recommend doing 1 character per flash card
Yes. A compound is meaningless until you know its parts.

>do you see any drawbacks to doing sentences (phase 4) at the same time as doing the characters only?
Yes. It’s like learning sentences in English without knowing the alphabet. You’ll only be slowed down and frustrated. Learn hanzi first. Divide and conquer.

>i was wondering what your thoughts on learning both japanese and chinese simultaneously
二兎を追う者は一兎をも得ず：The hunter who chases two rabbits catches neither. She needs to use one to bait the other (sort of…). Sucking at two languages simultaneously = no good, IMHO. Get good at one first. One at a time. Then maybe you can use it to ladder onto the other.

]]> By: boltar http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2628 boltar Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:27:20 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2628 hey, very nice site you have going here, khatzu. i've read most of your entries, and i just feel liberated with all this info. your writing is very motivational, to boot. anyways, i have a question about learning chinese. do you recommend learning x-thousand chinese characters before doing the 10k sentences, just like for japanese? do you also recommend doing 1 character per flash card, or do you recommend doing compound characters (to form a specific word) per flash card (thereby multiplying the number of cards by several factors)? also, do you see any drawbacks to doing sentences (phase 4) at the same time as doing the characters only? because this is what i'm currently doing, as i don't see any drawbacks to this approach at the moment. my situation is, i've started learning japanese, and recently i switched gears into chinese. i was wondering what your thoughts on learning both japanese and chinese simultaneously. or would it be better to 'master' (loose definition) one so that you can ladder on to the other? thanks in advance! hey, very nice site you have going here, khatzu. i’ve read most of your entries, and i just feel liberated with all this info. your writing is very motivational, to boot.

anyways, i have a question about learning chinese. do you recommend learning x-thousand chinese characters before doing the 10k sentences, just like for japanese?

do you also recommend doing 1 character per flash card, or do you recommend doing compound characters (to form a specific word) per flash card (thereby multiplying the number of cards by several factors)?

also, do you see any drawbacks to doing sentences (phase 4) at the same time as doing the characters only? because this is what i’m currently doing, as i don’t see any drawbacks to this approach at the moment.

my situation is, i’ve started learning japanese, and recently i switched gears into chinese. i was wondering what your thoughts on learning both japanese and chinese simultaneously. or would it be better to ‘master’ (loose definition) one so that you can ladder on to the other?

thanks in advance!

]]> By: Saru Sponge http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2235 Saru Sponge Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:30:09 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2235 Hehe. Monodic. Hehe.

Monodic.

]]> By: Qin Shi Huangdi http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2232 Qin Shi Huangdi Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:10:59 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2232 Also, for those just starting out with their sentence mining or hanzi practice in Mandarin, there's a good site I stumbled across http://www.chinese-course.com/ Lots of sentences, lots of characters (in 繁體字 and 簡體字, with animated stroke orders for many of them, if your still getting used to writing), and organized in a style very similar to Mnemosyne and other SRS systems. Also, for those just starting out with their sentence mining or hanzi practice in Mandarin, there’s a good site I stumbled across

http://www.chinese-course.com/

Lots of sentences, lots of characters (in 繁體字 and 簡體字, with animated stroke orders for many of them, if your still getting used to writing), and organized in a style very similar to Mnemosyne and other SRS systems.

]]> By: Qin Shi Huangdi http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2231 Qin Shi Huangdi Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:58:26 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2231 Most, most appreciated! Eh. To make a long story short, I'm not in a position to drop any money in the pot right now, but as soon as I am, I will. This site has been incredibly valuable over the last few months, both for morale and for practical purposes. :) Most, most appreciated!

Eh. To make a long story short, I’m not in a position to drop any money in the pot right now, but as soon as I am, I will. This site has been incredibly valuable over the last few months, both for morale and for practical purposes. :)

]]> By: uberstuber http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2230 uberstuber Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:31:02 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2230 sweet :) sweet :)

]]> By: khatzumoto http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2227 khatzumoto Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:54:05 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2227 Flipped posting order but kept the numbering :D Flipped posting order but kept the numbering :D

]]> By: uberstuber http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics/comment-page-1#comment-2226 uberstuber Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:49:14 +0000 http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/chinese-project-notes-5-monodics#comment-2226 What happened to Project Notes 4? What happened to Project Notes 4?

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