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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Try to Learn A &#8220;Language&#8221;</title>
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	<description>You don&#039;t learn a language, you get used to it.</description>
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		<title>By: khatzumoto</title>
		<link>http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/dont-try-to-learn-a-language#comment-6938</link>
		<dc:creator>khatzumoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the intro to RTK, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nanzan-u.ac.jp/SHUBUNKEN/publications/miscPublications/pdf/RK4/RK%201_sample.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the intro to RTK, <a href="http://www.nanzan-u.ac.jp/SHUBUNKEN/publications/miscPublications/pdf/RK4/RK%201_sample.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-6938" src="http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('6938', 'add', 'www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-6938-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-6938" src="http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('6938', 'subtract', 'www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-6938-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mediat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mediat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learning the letters/characters first...wow, I never thought of that. I thought it was &quot;learn the words first, and after 40 of so start learning sentences at the same time...and maybe, just maybe start learning the characters if you really really really really.....really want to.&quot;

why learn the characters first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learning the letters/characters first&#8230;wow, I never thought of that. I thought it was &#8220;learn the words first, and after 40 of so start learning sentences at the same time&#8230;and maybe, just maybe start learning the characters if you really really really really&#8230;..really want to.&#8221;</p>
<p>why learn the characters first?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Parisi</title>
		<link>http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/dont-try-to-learn-a-language#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Parisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site, and mucho hilarioso! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site, and mucho hilarioso! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/dont-try-to-learn-a-language#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree. If I were starting Chinese over again from scratch I would have invested the six months of effort that it would have taken to learn the first 3000 or so characters and then started the task of proper learning. It would have saved me so much time compared to the piecemeal way I actually went about it.

I wonder about how fast we learned words as children. I think the key was that, except for spelling tests and the like, we didn&#039;t learn words explicitly like we are when studying a foreign language. At first we probably encountered hundreds or even thousands of unknown words per day and through that exposure slowly caught on. It was probably slower than 50 per day (after all, as adults we have the benefit of having already worked out all the concepts behind the words we&#039;re learning, whereas when we were children we had to do that, too), but I suspect it was pretty fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree. If I were starting Chinese over again from scratch I would have invested the six months of effort that it would have taken to learn the first 3000 or so characters and then started the task of proper learning. It would have saved me so much time compared to the piecemeal way I actually went about it.</p>
<p>I wonder about how fast we learned words as children. I think the key was that, except for spelling tests and the like, we didn&#8217;t learn words explicitly like we are when studying a foreign language. At first we probably encountered hundreds or even thousands of unknown words per day and through that exposure slowly caught on. It was probably slower than 50 per day (after all, as adults we have the benefit of having already worked out all the concepts behind the words we&#8217;re learning, whereas when we were children we had to do that, too), but I suspect it was pretty fast.</p>
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